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andry796 Newcomer

Posts: 93 Reputation: 0 Join date: 2010-11-28 Age: 15 Location: Italy
 | Subject: What if your government falls? Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:24 am | |
| After society stage we'll obviously have different parties, and one of these will gain political power. Then, if this party (the one you "control") loses influence and another party gains power... what about strategy mode? You can't control a nation that isn't under your influence. So, we can choose to ignore this and let the player control his nation anyway, or we can do this: When your party loses power, you can't use strategy mode, or you can use it only partially. Then the player should "use" org mode to control the party leader and try this way to get influence again. What else? Let's discuss here |
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The Uteen Sandbox Team Lead

Posts: 1074 Reputation: 23 Join date: 2010-07-06 Age: 15 Location: England, Virgo Supercluster
 | Subject: Re: What if your government falls? Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:57 pm | |
| In strategy mode I thought you just assisted whatever party is in power as a sort of limited-god-like thing... So you aren't actually any specific party. Some-one else will be able to explain this better. |
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~sciocont Overall Team Lead

Posts: 2564 Reputation: 61 Join date: 2010-07-06
 | Subject: Re: What if your government falls? Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:36 pm | |
| The real problem here isn't of parties, it's of a revolution or something. We shouldn't let the player control their government if it's been taken over by another force. They should have to regroup and rebuild, and either -leave and create a new faction -get high into the current government that replaced theirs -try to take over the nation again _________________ Remember our goals: simplicity, science, and playability. Keep them in mind always. [OE]| [FAQ]|[Wiki]|[My Internet Presence]  |
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bill2505 Learner
Posts: 117 Reputation: 0 Join date: 2011-01-09 Location: Greece
 | Subject: Re: What if your government falls? Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:55 pm | |
| | ~sciocont wrote: | The real problem here isn't of parties, it's of a revolution or something. We shouldn't let the player control their government if it's been taken over by another force. They should have to regroup and rebuild, and either -leave and create a new faction -get high into the current government that replaced theirs -try to take over the nation again | i agree with the first and the third but not the second ...if there are parties in game you cant be a capitalist and because you lost going with the communist.(this is too spor(e)ish for me except the player also his followers should join him to retake the nation or creating a new one |
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Mysterious_Calligrapher Biome Team Lead

Posts: 877 Reputation: 14 Join date: 2010-11-26 Age: 20 Location: Earth, the solar system, the milky way...
 | Subject: Re: What if your government falls? Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:31 pm | |
| No, 2 is good in scio's post. The amount of historical examples that come to mind is astounding. For example, Queen Victoria supported both the Whigs and the ... tories? Anyhow, whichever party it was politic to support - as in, whoever was in power and would support her in return. In addition, we have governments like that of Argentina - not picking on argentinians at all - that at some points in history have had revolutions as stand-ins for elections. And while high-ranking political figures, like Juan Peron, have had to go into exile when they've fallen from power, people with less-politicized positions can hang on through many transfers of power, whether violent or no. The truth is, we need them to keep things running. |
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bill2505 Learner
Posts: 117 Reputation: 0 Join date: 2011-01-09 Location: Greece
 | Subject: Re: What if your government falls? Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:55 pm | |
| | Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote: | No, 2 is good in scio's post. The amount of historical examples that come to mind is astounding. For example, Queen Victoria supported both the Whigs and the ... tories? Anyhow, whichever party it was politic to support - as in, whoever was in power and would support her in return. In addition, we have governments like that of Argentina - not picking on argentinians at all - that at some points in history have had revolutions as stand-ins for elections. And while high-ranking political figures, like Juan Peron, have had to go into exile when they've fallen from power, people with less-politicized positions can hang on through many transfers of power, whether violent or no. The truth is, we need them to keep things running. |
i forgot that in game you will not are going to play the leader of the party |
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Mysterious_Calligrapher Biome Team Lead

Posts: 877 Reputation: 14 Join date: 2010-11-26 Age: 20 Location: Earth, the solar system, the milky way...
 | Subject: Re: What if your government falls? Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:55 pm | |
| We're a little further removed than that in strat, and org lets you choose whom you are. |
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andry796 Newcomer

Posts: 93 Reputation: 0 Join date: 2010-11-28 Age: 15 Location: Italy
 | Subject: Re: What if your government falls? Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:41 am | |
| | The Uteen wrote: | In strategy mode I thought you just assisted whatever party is in power as a sort of limited-god-like thing... So you aren't actually any specific party. Some-one else will be able to explain this better. |
"whatever party" doesn't make sense: A party is made of ideals and if you always control your nation ideals are always the same .
And, we wont have real parties in game, they'll have procedurally generated traits and names, and will act differently. |
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caekdaemon Newcomer
Posts: 89 Reputation: 0 Join date: 2010-10-27
 | Subject: Re: What if your government falls? Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:08 pm | |
| What if your government type does not include parties? |
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The Uteen Sandbox Team Lead

Posts: 1074 Reputation: 23 Join date: 2010-07-06 Age: 15 Location: England, Virgo Supercluster
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bill2505 Learner
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mike roberts Learner
Posts: 105 Reputation: 0 Join date: 2010-09-05 Age: 16 Location: United States
 | Subject: Re: What if your government falls? Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:28 am | |
| also if someone else takes control of ur government u can throw a rebellion that would be nice to see |
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US_of_Alaska Overall Team Co-Lead

Posts: 1314 Reputation: 24 Join date: 2010-07-07 Age: 19 Location: Australia
 | Subject: Re: What if your government falls? Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:55 pm | |
| Has anyone read up on the Nation Editor? When you give more of the power slider to the people, sometimes they change things that you don't want changed, and in turn they are happier. Alternatively, if you're talking about elections, that will just change the likeliness of certain leader traits popping up. |
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