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2011: A look back
Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:29 pm by ~sciocont
I'm not one to celebrate the new year much- where I live, It just means four months of freezing weather and little daylight- but I'd like to take a look back at what we as a community have done in 2011, and peer forward into 2012. At times our project seems awash in uncertainty, and I think we might never reach our goals. It's at times like this when I stop to think about what Thrive has …

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PostSubject: Corporate Police State : How to Create?   Tue Mar 08, 2011 12:42 pm

How would you create a corporate police state?

Im guessing its free market and such to maximum, with authoritarianism to maximum aswell, but that leaves massive holes that idea does.
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PostSubject: Re: Corporate Police State : How to Create?   Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:19 pm

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How would you create a corporate police state?

Im guessing its free market and such to maximum, with authoritarianism to maximum aswell, but that leaves massive holes that idea does.

Do you mean a corporatist state where the military government serves the corporations, or a corporate state where the corporation is the government?

The first would have economic freedoms to it's maximum, while having personal freedoms to a minimum. It would also have the leader selection as set to military. The second would have economic freedoms set to however the corporation wanted it, personal freedoms set to however the corporation wanted it, and the leader would be "Corporation (Corporation Name)".
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PostSubject: Re: Corporate Police State : How to Create?   Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:27 pm

US_of_Alaska wrote:

The first would have economic freedoms to it's maximum, while having personal freedoms to a minimum. It would also have the leader selection as set to military. The second would have economic freedoms set to however the corporation wanted it, personal freedoms set to however the corporation wanted it, and the leader would be "Corporation (Corporation Name)".

I believe the second one would be closer to what I mean.

On NationStates, I used to be a Corporate police state, but I eventually became a Compulsory consumer state. Take a look, as I believe I managed to capture quite a few of the things a corporate police state would have, but there are a few problems (ie, private enterprise illegal...).

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The Dictatorship of Canis Minoris is a very large, safe nation, remarkable for its barren, inhospitable landscape. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, cynical population of 176 million are rabid consumers, partly through choice and partly because the government tells them to and dissenters tend to vanish from their homes at night.

It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, corrupt, pro-business government stops and the rest of society begins, but it juggles the competing demands of Law & Order, Defence, and Commerce. Citizens pay a flat income tax of 51%. Private enterprise is illegal, but for those in the know there is a slick and highly efficient black market in Information Technology.

Corporations cut costs by taking away safety-features on their products, the nation's drinking water tends to glow green at night, teachers regularly paddle unruly students, and torture is commonly used to extract information from suspected criminals. Crime -- especially youth-related -- is totally unknown, thanks to the all-pervasive police force. Canis Minoris's national animal is the falcon, which is also the nation's favorite main course, and its currency is the star.
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PostSubject: Re: Corporate Police State : How to Create?   Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:06 pm

Yes, the second one sounds a lot closer to that kind of system.
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PostSubject: Re: Corporate Police State : How to Create?   Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:41 pm

i know that i have a cache of political knowledge stored somewhere in my mind but a police state and a free market can't coexist

but a corporate police state is a whole different matter as you say with the first part of the whole thing that it is corporate and based on that fact you can say that a corporate police state is nothing more then a state that is created inside a multinational that holds enough ground that is needed to place everything a nation needs and in basic terms has their own private army and police force

dissected for the people not familiar with social engineering
*pure theory* possible as feudalism is kinda the same thing

*real world* it might be so that feudalism is a form of that it misses some key factors that can't coexist with it the closest thing to this can only be achieved when 1 multinational gains full access to the moon (just an example) in such way that no other can get to the moon that multinational can create not only a private army but also monopolize all things find on the moon

*side note* i have had a small nap some time ago and before that running at least 24 hours so if things don't seem right or are just missing the shelve completely then it is because i'm tired
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PostSubject: Re: Corporate Police State : How to Create?   Sun May 22, 2011 10:43 am

It's strange that a state controlled by one big corporation would not be that different from the state-socialist states, like the soviet union (oligarchy, authoritarian, monopolies on everything, no individual enterprise)
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