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Updated Research Web
Wed May 08, 2013 5:20 pm by NickTheNick
Okay guys, here is my first Devblog to fulfill my responsibility as Strategy Team lead.

Finally I have procured some work to show for my efforts in conceptualizing the Strategy Mode. The Research Web is a pivotal component of post-sapience gameplay, as it is what drives your species forwards from the Awakening stage to their final steps into Ascension. Through a graphing program, I have managed …

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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:57 pm

PTFace wrote:
Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:
zippybomb wrote:
This is a fantastic idea! cheers Quickly! Everybody think as fast as they can! We need ideas for rewards!


- Logo buttons/tees
- Posters (concept art, probably... Kinko's it or something.)
- list of people who have donated (bragging rights)
- Advance download of game music or something... maybe.

Good stuff to have on the table when this idea becomes applicable and we've got something to show for ourselves. I'll bring it back up in marketing at an appropriate time.


Typically the way I've seen is: (also higher levels receive the lower ones)

Smallest amount- Some little in game thing, such as being able to make your creature completely golden or silver with no negative repercussions.
Next- Something like a Thrive mousepad or button
Next- Your choice of Concept art as a poster
Next- A downloadable version of the soundtrack
And then a huge jump in price, lets say it is now 50 dollars- A signed T-Shirt with all the developers names
75 dollars- A signed physical copy of the soundtrack with all the composers
100- A signed concept artbook with all artists
anything over 100 will also receive their name in the credits

Something like that


Um, I don`t think we could sign things, we would have to mail them around and that would take a long time.
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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:05 pm

Right, I just looked at a few random kickstarters and those were the most common things
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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:28 am

Also, what program is being used to code the game and where can you download it?
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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:02 am

zippybomb wrote:
PTFace wrote:
Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:
zippybomb wrote:
This is a fantastic idea! cheers Quickly! Everybody think as fast as they can! We need ideas for rewards!


- Logo buttons/tees
- Posters (concept art, probably... Kinko's it or something.)
- list of people who have donated (bragging rights)
- Advance download of game music or something... maybe.

Good stuff to have on the table when this idea becomes applicable and we've got something to show for ourselves. I'll bring it back up in marketing at an appropriate time.


Typically the way I've seen is: (also higher levels receive the lower ones)

Smallest amount- Some little in game thing, such as being able to make your creature completely golden or silver with no negative repercussions.
Next- Something like a Thrive mousepad or button
Next- Your choice of Concept art as a poster
Next- A downloadable version of the soundtrack
And then a huge jump in price, lets say it is now 50 dollars- A signed T-Shirt with all the developers names
75 dollars- A signed physical copy of the soundtrack with all the composers
100- A signed concept artbook with all artists
anything over 100 will also receive their name in the credits

Something like that


Um, I don`t think we could sign things, we would have to mail them around and that would take a long time.

Yeah... we have several different countries here, guys. I mean, some of us might have access to a scanner good enough for some sort of digital signature to go through well... but it's not like we're all developing in the same office building here.

Psst. PT, pester Roadkill. He was just here talking to the new programmer the other day. To the best of my belief, we're using C++, though I highly suspect it's something that's on your computer which you can use if you have the power, not something you download.
*Sincerely hopes she's not the only one old enough to be yelling "I have the power" or remember Greyskull Castle.*

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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:30 pm

Ill try to think of something...

I liked PTs idea for in-game stuff with lower donations. How about there is something in-game along with concept art posters and/or soundtracks for every donation? Like a golden biome?

We also need exact donation amounts, except for above-a-certain-point donations. (you know, $100+)
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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:47 pm

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Ill try to think of something...

I liked PTs idea for in-game stuff with lower donations. How about there is something in-game along with concept art posters and/or soundtracks for every donation? Like a golden biome?

We also need exact donation amounts, except for above-a-certain-point donations. (you know, $100+)


We'll have to think of something that's achievable by our programmers. I'm thinking something highly decorative that wouldn't break game physics. Of course, that would delay the kickstarter even more because we'd have to program easter eggs as well as the stage... Also, even if we couldn't sign physical stuff, it is entirely possible to design t-shirts, have them printed, and ship them to people without ever seeing the t-shirt. Plus, you know, real-world advertising, not something we'd get out of having just an easter egg.

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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:10 pm

I thought of a tonne of In-game donation rewards.

Here they are:

- Exclusive special textures and parts (parts are optional)
- Golden and Silver textures
- (expansion on PTs Idea) Ability to make creatures Solid gold, Silver, Platinum etc, as well as making allowing you to color parts that way, or actually MAKE the parts gold/silver/platinum/etc, along with exclusive new parts corresponding with precious metals like those.
- Same as before, only with birthstones.
- Thrive-labelled parts, TOs, and a special t-shirt in-game.
- Secret/unlockable editor of some sort. (ghost/spirit editor? I dunno.)
- Special god tool. (I didn't see a weather tool discussed, but that seems like it should be included in game... We need something that isn't as should-be-in-the-core-game. Maybe a fear-inducing tool?)
- Special material biomes. (Gold, Silver, Lapis Lazuli, Platinum, Ruby...)
- Infinite amount of one type of resource.
- Access to something from the beta (something REALLY early on in development)

I'm prone to think of something else.
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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:46 am

Just to let people know, if they haven't noticed, I've moved discussion about donations to a new thread, since it seems to have outgrown this one.
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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:12 pm

Now I can ask some questions that have been wanting to get out the moment I joined the forums.

1. When playing in strategy mode, exactly what are you playing as? For the Space and Industrial stages it's acceptable to play as a commander of sorts, but what about the more "Tribal" stages? Or, if you have a pack in Aware and possibly multicellular, what would be?

2. How will the Tech Tree and creators come into the game? The stage-to-stage progression is supposed to be really smooth, so you wouldn't realize you're in awakening stage after finishing aware, but the FP creator can't just "appear", players would know when they are in awakening stage, and it just wouldn't look good.

3. Will the OE still be available in awakening and beyond? If it isn't, we would have to figure out how to make it fade out of the game.

4. How will the transfer to ascension work? Will your entire species instantly become gods, or is it just you? Ascension is the one weirdest issue we have, because we know exactly how most of it is going to go, but we still have a tonne of problems involving gameplay.
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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:39 pm

Orygandian2 wrote:
Now I can ask some questions that have been wanting to get out the moment I joined the forums.

1. When playing in strategy mode, exactly what are you playing as? For the Space and Industrial stages it's acceptable to play as a commander of sorts, but what about the more "Tribal" stages? Or, if you have a pack in Aware and possibly multicellular, what would be?

2. How will the Tech Tree and creators come into the game? The stage-to-stage progression is supposed to be really smooth, so you wouldn't realize you're in awakening stage after finishing aware, but the FP creator can't just "appear", players would know when they are in awakening stage, and it just wouldn't look good.

3. Will the OE still be available in awakening and beyond? If it isn't, we would have to figure out how to make it fade out of the game.

4. How will the transfer to ascension work? Will your entire species instantly become gods, or is it just you? Ascension is the one weirdest issue we have, because we know exactly how most of it is going to go, but we still have a tonne of problems involving gameplay.


Brittish spelling?
1) You can play as real time strategy as soon as there's any form of societal organization, or you can play as a creature.

2) Discussed: We'd start with people learning to smash nuts open with rocks (as one of many examples,) and that would be when you start getting TE ability.

3) Pretty certain yes.

4) Holy belgium, I thought that had died... Um, I think that's on the list of things to worry about when we actually start worrying about at a later date.

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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:23 am

I also had a few questions if anyone has the time to answer.
1) Will the kardashev scale be present? I thought it would be neat if we could work Carl Sagan's version in and you could browse your rating from any stage in the game, perhaps in the top left corner of the menu.
2) could we have any majorly evil race like a type 2.5 race similar to daleks, or borg, or the empire? I have a very interesting empire in mind based off the borg, but I don't know if we want any type of storyline at all.
3) Will the galaxy be static, or will stars be born and die. If we're going for realism, we wouldn't want a static galaxy, but at the rate the milky way produces stars, we would end up with way too many eventually. Will it be sort of static, like every star that dies, another is born?
4) Will we work the Drake equation into code with blanks filled in to generate solar systems and planets?
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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:37 am

I have a few questions:
1) Will there be a sporepedia-like encyclopedia of all pre-made and dowloaded creations?
2) Will we be able to "share" our creations?
3)Will we have non-ingame editors like in Spore?

Just curious. Any answer would be greatly appreciated. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:00 pm

ethroptur wrote:
I have a few questions:
1) Will there be a sporepedia-like encyclopedia of all pre-made and dowloaded creations?
2) Will we be able to "share" our creations?
3)Will we have non-ingame editors like in Spore?

Just curious. Any answer would be greatly appreciated. Smile

1) Requires a server, which requires money to maintain, which we don't have being non-profit. If someone offered to host one, it would still require a lot of programming to implement properly, which isn't preferable. We have also decided it isn't worth it for those reasons. In short, I'm afraid not.

2) The code for the organism (a reasonably humanly readable string of text) should be obtainable and editable, at most minimal it will be locatable in the game files, so yes, just post the code on a fan forum and someone else can copy it in. Wink

3) I'm pretty sure none of Spore's editors were standalone. We probably will not have standalone editors, but I don't know for sure.
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PostSubject: KICKSTARTER, YOUTUBE,OUYA= SUPPORT!   Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:03 pm

I hope you guys can reply with an open mind to this, but have you ever considered using kick starter? It could help with getting more programmers getting the things you might need like development funds I would say, and i feel it could help. I also feel you need to use youtube make an account because if you promote the game more, and more the more it gets looked into by more people and finally you'll get someone like ign to talk about it. Finally you need to look into ouya it's an open console that if you wanted to could help with getting it out there a lot easier since they said it's meant for developers who can't get there games out there. You guys have been at this for 3.5 years it's time to push this into a beta development as fast as you can, and you need a lot of support for it I want to help, but I think you need to consider these ideas and I am dead serious about doing them I don't want this game to fail please reply with what you think. study
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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:24 am

wwewar wrote:
I hope you guys can reply with an open mind to this, but have you ever considered using kick starter? It could help with getting more programmers getting the things you might need like development funds I would say, and i feel it could help. I also feel you need to use youtube make an account because if you promote the game more, and more the more it gets looked into by more people and finally you'll get someone like ign to talk about it. Finally you need to look into ouya it's an open console that if you wanted to could help with getting it out there a lot easier since they said it's meant for developers who can't get there games out there. You guys have been at this for 3.5 years it's time to push this into a beta development as fast as you can, and you need a lot of support for it I want to help, but I think you need to consider these ideas and I am dead serious about doing them I don't want this game to fail please reply with what you think. study

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